Comments on: Best Proven Systemd-Free Linux Distributions You Can Rely On https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ All things Linux & Open Source Sun, 29 Dec 2024 00:12:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Doc https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-64502 Sun, 29 Dec 2024 00:12:03 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-64502 In reply to Doc.

Sorry missed the Systemd-Free part, ignore comment.. but if your going to use a Systemd distro then CB++ is a good choice. Peace!

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By: Doc https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-64499 Sun, 29 Dec 2024 00:09:37 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-64499 I would replace MX with CrunchBang++ https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/ but that is just me..

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By: nevarmaor https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-64175 Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:10:21 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-64175 One linux family always missing from these discussions is Puppy. It is excellent for the desktop.

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By: Luser https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-63152 Sat, 13 Jul 2024 12:08:56 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-63152 Great to see Slackware as first on the list, I use it myself and it’s quite amazing that Pat is still at it. Void is brilliant as well, though, especially their integration of runit. I was not aware that Marpels wrote OpenRC, and in fact, I never liked it much either.
Alpine is another systemd-free distribution, though unlike void, it only comes with musl as libc (and uses busybox). Crux still exists, though like with Gentoo, you usually compile from source. With beasts like QT and firefox, this would be too time consuming on my battered PC. Not to speak of the Dell Wyse 5070 I run with Slackware — it would take ages, though compiling small programs is doable usually.
(I tried compiling mosh on my RPi 3B+ with Slackwarearm and the system froze trying to compile protobuf3, though I remember that I once got it to compile. Granted, the last time I tried I was using X w/ ctwm, which may have wasted too many resources.)

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By: Zascatronic https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-56566 Tue, 02 Apr 2024 11:37:21 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-56566 Old linux admin here. I won’t rant a lot.
Systemd and Wayland make only sense in a desktop enviroment, not at all at server enviroment.
Linux general development and Linux desktop development should split because their aims and objectives are totally opposed.
Long life Devuan.

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By: dragonmouth https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-50043 Sat, 13 Jan 2024 14:28:27 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-50043 systemd – an INIT that wants to be a distro.

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By: Kevin Giles https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-38581 Tue, 30 May 2023 12:08:55 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-38581 I used to be a great advocate of Linux but I am finding it harder & harder to justify. The problem is that Linux is becoming another MS windows, but without MS-Windows mass of software support.

Linux, due in a large part to its using the ‘Unix philosophies’, was an alternative OS that offered speed, reliability & robustness. However, I have sen an increasing trend, over the past couple of decades, to ‘MS Windows-ise’ it.
Perhaps this is due to new generations of developers coming through who have never been taught the virtues of the Unix design philosophies? Perhaps it is a perversion of trying to get Linux onto more desktops, seen as ‘compete with MS Windows’, corrupted into ‘become more like MS windows’? Whatever, in my opinion THIS MUST STOP as it must ultimately kill Linux.

The big deal about ‘sytemd’ is that is a very large step in this direction, and a huge step away from being Linux. Linux can never be MS Windows. But without the support of the big software companies the closer it gets then the less appeal it will have as an alternative. Let Linux stick to its own Unique Selling Points – stability, speed and flexibility.

Another great engineering philosophy is “if it ain’t broke, then don’t fix it”. And certainly not replace it with something that is actually broken. There was nothing wrong with SysVinit, it is well proven to be very robust & flexible. Systemd strikes me as change for the sake of change. Not only pointless, but a big step backwards. I have heard people say that it is an improvement! But the improvements they state all turn out to be specious. What I do see is degradations. Where is the reliability, speed & ability to finesse that SysVinit has?

If I must be forced into using systemd in order to use Linux, then it’s time to move onto BSD.

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By: Kevin Giles https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-38578 Tue, 30 May 2023 11:05:21 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-38578 In reply to Trinidad Cruz.

As a developer of 30yrs experience, both MS-Windows & Linux, I have learnt to LOVE the Unix ‘Do just one job & do it well’ philosophy. It means small & simple code that is as bugproof as you can get. It means that potential bugs can easily be spotted & fixed during initial development. It means the code is easy to thoroughly test under all conditions. It means that when a bug does get into the wild it is much quicker to isolate and trackdown & solve. It means amendments can be made with far less worrying about ‘What might this break?’.

One of my jobs involved writing a system for a TV station in Hong Kong from a desk in England. When the customer wanted a change this philosophy meant that the change was implemented and running on site within hours, not days or even weeks.

So, this philosophy is not just ‘politics’, it’s a discipline that turns out solid bug-free code. Because Microsoft does not adhere to it and they dominate the market so greatly the general public has come to believe that code must inevitably have bugs.

So maybe it is ‘politics’? If so, then it is the politics of allowing business to use consumer ignorance to allow them to get away with providing shoddy goods.

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By: anticapitalista https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-37732 Mon, 01 May 2023 10:42:10 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-37732 antiX is not only systemd-free, but also free of elogind.

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By: Tao of Linux https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/#comment-37413 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:28:11 +0000 https://linuxiac.com/?p=48136#comment-37413 I found your article interesting.
Personally I don’t much for systemd as (like windoz) it’s full of bugs that cannot/will not be fixed without a total rewrite, mking it unfit for purpose.
There are many non-systemd distros and was surprised not to see Artix (Arch without systemd) and antix (Debian without systemd).
Maybe a series of articles on non-systemd distros themed as there are now over 50 non-systemd distros?
I use voidlinux, devuan, artix and gentoo – each have a different purpose. Also have linux on my phone (postmarketOS) and smc’s (nas & webserver, which might make for interesting articles?
Thank you for some interesting, informative and helpful articles. I’ll be back!

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