I don’t really understand all this hype. People behind X11 want to maintain it. Xlibre wants new features. If Xlibre gets some traction then some fast moving Linux distro will include it as replacement for X.org, then others will follow etc. If XLibre does not advances enought or Linux distros do not see the X11 way, than this will also be fine. You people… just relax.

Some compositors implement some features in their own way. There is no “Wayland desktop”, but “GNOME desktop”, “KDE desktop”, “wlroots desktop”, “hyprland desktop”, and so on. This is why Wayland can never be fixed

What a strange comment. IBM working on another mass cull like they previously aided in Germany?

“large corporations” are where software goes to die

so I do believe you lol

I can do most of those things but I use a few simple scripts i found on the net resource many use for these type of things and have been using them for sometime.

There is always people like this every time things change and it is always a small handful of people that think whatever is happening is garbage blah blah they will never use whatever and so on.

You must either be retarded or not know what you are doing if you can not do those things.

I have not used x11 for years and neither has many others so your statement does not reflect the majority of users. With major distros pushing wayland for years it is only a matter of time before almost nobody uses x11. Wayland has been rock solid on my own systems and on the systems I use at work.

Wayland thrash is certainly not better than anything. It’s just yet another Red HAT NIH pet peeve that they pour millions into deep lobbying to manipulate the kool-aid drinkers into believing it’s superior, while the only benefit of wayland is that Red Hat can control it from end to end, and ensure them market share on the Linux enterprise world.

I use both X and wayland depending on my workflow, and I have yet to see any benefit on wayland. If anything, there’s a noticeable performance drop in games.

16 years of development and it’s still underperforming, as most Red Hat projects do (Gnome is a failed design for users, Mutter is totally half baked and one of the weakest Linux compositors, adwaita/libadwaita is probably the most amateur, ugly and inconsistent theme out there, etc…).

Whatever Red Hat touches somehow end up being crap. And wayland is no exception. Basically any competing company with 2 tinkerers in their garage systematically manage to do better than an army of Red Hat employees, this is pretty insane to be so incompetent.
That’s why, even if Red Hat will use all their firepower (pour millions into influencing and manipulating the public opinion) to kill off XLibre, including by spreading misinformation over its main developer to try and ruin his reputation on non-technical grounds, we need this to gain traction and act as counterweight.
They even went as far as attacking on some fake political views, while Red Hat isn’t exactly a saint there either, since they make everything political (which is why software is bad) and is well known for their discrimination policies.

“perfectly usable” – and still no standard way to manage windows, get mouse position, emulate input, capture/share screen. Sure it’s perfectly usable for kiosks